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debka_notion) wrote2007-03-15 07:09 pm
debka_notion) wrote2007-03-15 07:09 pm
The Pre-Friday Shacharit Kvetch
I just got the pre-Friday morning class davenen email. So- the usual kvetch, which usually doesn't get written, but my usual audience is in Germany, so...
Ok, fine, they aren't doing P'sukei D'Zimra unless you do it on your own before coming or if you come at 7:45 instead of 8:00 to do so. I worry about the halakhic validity of this, as some folks will probably do neither. Myself, I'll probably show around 7:45 and such. And sure, niggunim and some silence are pretty, but couldn't we do Those before PdZ rather than after? Silent meditation is nice too, and even less problematic, although I'm iffy on the "speak up if you have something to say" thing that they'll be doing during it.
But well- I'm currently still fine with including the imahot in the amidah, although having been given a quick rundown on a list of problems with it, well, I'm sort of thinking about trying to find some other way of including my feminism in my davenen: I'm thinking a trip to the library to play with tekhines might be in my future. Maybe even tonight. So much more interesting than my homework... But, they're promising an alternative list of imahot. I'm wondering what this is going to include, and I'm sort of worried that this is going to involve Bilhah and Zilpah, and well- somehow that feels like it's pushing too far even conceptually, let alone halakhically.
Ok, off to the library. We'll see what happens.
Ok, fine, they aren't doing P'sukei D'Zimra unless you do it on your own before coming or if you come at 7:45 instead of 8:00 to do so. I worry about the halakhic validity of this, as some folks will probably do neither. Myself, I'll probably show around 7:45 and such. And sure, niggunim and some silence are pretty, but couldn't we do Those before PdZ rather than after? Silent meditation is nice too, and even less problematic, although I'm iffy on the "speak up if you have something to say" thing that they'll be doing during it.
But well- I'm currently still fine with including the imahot in the amidah, although having been given a quick rundown on a list of problems with it, well, I'm sort of thinking about trying to find some other way of including my feminism in my davenen: I'm thinking a trip to the library to play with tekhines might be in my future. Maybe even tonight. So much more interesting than my homework... But, they're promising an alternative list of imahot. I'm wondering what this is going to include, and I'm sort of worried that this is going to involve Bilhah and Zilpah, and well- somehow that feels like it's pushing too far even conceptually, let alone halakhically.
Ok, off to the library. We'll see what happens.
Re: got piyyut?
Golinkin's teshuva on the subject can be found here (http://www.schechter.edu/responsa/0702.htm).
Re: got piyyut?
There's probably a bunch of people (especially within a JTS social circle) who'd be willing and/or eager to write this piyyut if they understood the significance of it.
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I'd be happy to make suggestions though for people who possibly would be capable of writing a suitable piyyut for this purpose - in fact, people who are probably far more qualified than I am (since I - at least currently - have no degree in liturgy or some apprenticeship in piyyut and am pretty much self-taught).
Re: got piyyut?
Appendix
A Piyyut about the Imahot
for Inclusion in the Avot Blessing
by Rabbi Dr. Einat Ramon
to be inserted after the words “l'ma'an shemo b'ahavah” :
Navo'ah oholei Sarah, Rivka, Rachel v'Leah.
Utehi gemilut hasdeihen lefaneinu b'khol eit u'v'khol sha'ah.
Translation:
Let us enter the tents of Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel and Leah. May their acts of loving-kindness be an example to us at all times.
Re: got piyyut?
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