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debka_notion ([personal profile] debka_notion) wrote2006-03-01 09:51 am

Purim thoughts and anticipations

1. [livejournal.com profile] shirei_shibolim, you might enjoy knowing that I got a few compliments on my megillah trope (aka, your megillah trope)this morning- because the etnakhta and sofei-pasuk are actually easy to distinguish from each other. People seemed to find this unusual.

2. Why the heck isn't Vashti held up as a model of good tzniusdike behavior (aren't they always looking for good biblical role models for religious girls?), rather than being cast as a villainess? What would people have wanted Esther to do in the same situation? I keep thinking that someone should dress up for Purim as Vashti by wearing a chador... (Even if I still get a kick out of the idea of her turning green and growing a tail...)

3. Steve brought really exciting hamentashen to minyan this morning for Rosh Hodesh. It was a pleasant surprise, and rather inspiring on my part.

[identity profile] fleurdelis28.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I always wonder, though, how low women's stature could really have been (in the popular mind if not in the political laws) if it was possible for the queen's telling off the king to ignite an empire-wide rebellion of women that could only be thwarted by emergency legislation. Actually, Esther is the only facially docile or compliant woman in the whole Megillah -- the women of the court get their own seven-day drinking party, and Haman's wife speaks her mind.

[identity profile] thevortex.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Where does the queen tell off the king? Last I checked, the king sends a letter telling the Jews that they may fight back.

The Vortex

[identity profile] fleurdelis28.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I was referring to Vashti. When did Esther's behavior threaten to ignite an empire-wide rebellion of women?

[identity profile] thevortex.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure that Vashti's did either. That was more what the vizier's feared.

The Vortex

[identity profile] fleurdelis28.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but when a group's status is really and customarily abyssmal, there's usually not so much concern about their getting ideas because of one incident, however high-profile. That usually tends to indicate that there are other grounds for concern, or an iffier balance of power.

Also, women's status has never, to my knowledge, prevented a beautiful woman that everyone likes from persuading her husband not to exterminate her people for no good reason, particularly not when there are multiple drinking parties and an overconfident courtier involved. (Not to imply any lack of appreciation for Esther's consumate political skill.) That's totally working within the system.