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debka_notion ([personal profile] debka_notion) wrote2006-12-06 07:41 pm

Finding Myself More Troubled Than I'd Expected

CJLS has made its decisions, and I'm finding myself more troubled than I had expected. I've read a draft of Rabbi Dorff's tshuvah, and it came across as well reasoned and pretty darn halakhically valid, as far as I, very much a student and not a rabbi, could tell. And it jives with what my heart and my conscience tell me is right- that homosexuality is not a disease, or an affliction or a sin. I simply cannot see it that way. And it passed, and the teshuvot that I had heard about that did not sound as halakhically solid did not pass, regardless of whatever procedural issues can be raised about that fact.

On the other hand, I respect Rabbi Roth a great deal, and in many ways, his positions are often, although not always, my benchmark: if he permits something, I find it hard to reject except l'chumra. The man has, from what I've seen, a huge sense of responsibility to halakha and is incredibly conscientious in his process and decisions. If he feels that something is not halakhic, and if he feels compelled to resign from the law committee because he feels that it is making the movement not a halakhic movement- I can't help but do some questioning of my own- and that raises the idea that my halakha and my morals might not mesh, and that troubles me immensely.

On a completely selfish note, I wonder if now, considering how unusual it still is for women around here to wear kippot all the time, I will need to not only keep going around having to correct people's assumptions about the status of my love life, I'll also have to start correcting people's assumptions about my sexuality. It probably won't be a problem- but somehow I have this fear that it will.

On a scholarly note- I'm going to be incredibly interested in watching the ritual development and further halakhic process that comes out of this.

[identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
If she's interested in dating men then it could be awfully frustrating to have them assume she's gay.

[identity profile] spin0za1.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
What I don't understand is why men would assume she's gay...

[identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's not rational, but a woman wearing a kippa when she's not davening tends to illicit that reaction. My wife used to wear kippot everywhere (she now alternates between kippot and hats), and always complained that everyone assumed she was either gay or a rabbinical student.

[identity profile] ryuutchi.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that second assumption...

[identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I know. Much more slanderous. :)

[identity profile] spin0za1.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
People often assume that I'm a rabbinical student, but interestingly no one has of late assumed that I was gay without me giving them a reason to.

[identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It may also have to do with location, personal "aura," and the shifting sexual politics of the past several years. All I know is that Terri used to complain about it constantly, and that a friend of ours who is in fact gay stopped wearing a yarmulke regularly because she was worried it would be perceived as a political expression rather than a religious one.

[identity profile] margavriel.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't the wearing of yarmulkes in general a political, rather than religious, statement?

[identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com 2006-12-07 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
For some. I wouldn't generalize.

[identity profile] thevortex.livejournal.com 2006-12-08 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
In addition to [livejournal.com profile] shirei_shibolim and [livejournal.com profile] tovah623's comments, I have found that the political assumption occurs more frequently with regard to women wearing kipot. Ironically, I also find that the only place where it really is political among women is in shul; every single woman I know who wears a kipa all the time, does so for religious reasons (to say nothing of those who wear one only while davening, but at least some of those are just political).

The Vortex

[identity profile] tovah623.livejournal.com 2006-12-08 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
In Israel, at least, on a man the presence and type or absence of kippah is an major statement of political affiliation - or at least is guaranteed to be perceived as such. Kippah serugah vs. velvet vs. color vs. black vs. none etc. I know someone who wears a kippah but is fairly left in Israeli politics, but often is challenged or yelled at by those he most agrees w/ just b/c of his kippah.

That's what I was referring to above.

Of course the reason I don't wear a kippah is exactly because of the political statements people would read into it.

[identity profile] thevortex.livejournal.com 2006-12-08 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Of course the reason I don't wear a kippah is exactly because of the political statements people would read into it.

But would they read in such statements at JHU?

Alternately, why not wear something on your head for the same reason men do (in the US, anyway)? (Granted, I heard that you will be in a position to cover your head anyway in the not-too-distant future [mazal tov!!], but in the interim...)

Huzzah!

The Vortex

P.S. So if I wear my black suede kipa in Israel (which I wear because it matches my clothes), would it also present me as the political Conservative that I am? =P