Help?

[debka_notion]

Can anyone describe the knot used in tying tzitzit for me? I've read a series of sets of instructions which describe it using a. an incomprehensible picture, b. the term "double knot", and/or c. the term "granny knot". Unfortunately, I don't know if these are all the same thing, different things/different customs for tying, or what. Can anyone fill me in? OTherwise I'll see if I can find something at work tomorrow, but all our rabbis are either off in Israel right now, or don't really come in in the summer.

Comments

[spazerrific.livejournal.com]

are we talking the knots between the wrappy things? I just do a square knot... tie one regular knot and another on top... I think that may be what the "double knot" means...

~Spaz

[debka-notion.livejournal.com]

Ooh! That makes much more sense than that weird picture...

[shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com]

Once you're done with the coiling bit, the knot is a kind of stationary slip knot. Take the first step in tying the bow (the foundation beofore the bow itself, the most basic "knot" in the world); do it, then do it backwards. That is, left over right and then right over left.

[debka-notion.livejournal.com]

Ahh- exactly what my father described as a "square knot". Hurray!

[jessebeller.livejournal.com]

one of the jewish catalogues has a very good run down.
i think its the first jewish catalogue (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0827600429/ref%3Dpd%5Fsl%5Faw%5Falx-jeb-9-1%5Fbook%5F4670947%5F5/103-4697830-5368626), but it might be the second or the third. regardless, let me commend them all to you as an excellent three-volume encyclopedia-cum-how-to-manual for jewish life.

[naomichana.livejournal.com]

*nod* Yeah -- a double knot is another term for a square knot, at least in my book. And I've tied plenty of tzitzit and had them come out looking right. :)

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[shekkichebaz.livejournal.com]

square knot:
right over left; left over right

granny knot: right over left; right over left

both are probably acceptable, but I seem to remember granny being the one to use.