Tired and busy

[debka_notion]

I didn't get enough work done today, but I did go dancing- a mediocre night, although well decorated for Yom Ha'Atzmaut. I was "chag sameach"ed- felt odd, Yom Ha'Atzmaut feels like a secular event to me, and I'm not used to "chag sameach" for secular holidays. But there were tons of people there, and a bunch of cute kids. In addition, Yossi came up, surprisingly (but without holding much excitement), and Jill (someone I know not a close friend) is engaged- after dating this guy for 8 months- doesn't seem so long to me. Eh, to each their own.

Today otherwise- I think I sort of drifted through it, and didn't get enough work done. GUess I'll survive. I was exhausted- still am, and sort of on the brink of dehydration I think. I'm off to finish my tea and go to bed.

Comments

[gimmelgirl.livejournal.com]

Drink water!

I definitely see Yom Ha'Atzmaut as a chag. We say "Al HaNisim," and I think it is well deserved. We are a nation, and as such, the establishment of our state, is somewhat secular. But, since we are the Jewish people, and we have a more spiritual thing as well, our becoming a "free people in our land" is much more than just that. It is a religious and spiritual homecoming that is tied directly to God. And the establishment was a miraculous partnership between Am Yisrael and Adonai, as were many other chagim. I see no reason to deny it that status.
Chag Sameach! (o:

[debka-notion.livejournal.com]

I don't see a reason to deny it religious status- but it seems like a pretty secular event to me, perhaps because that's how it was presented to me: we suffered, we were given a homeland, they attacked us, we won. Just the Israeli 4th of July. I guess I never connected the current state of Israel with any Messianic type ideas. Those are good too- but they haven't happened yet. So Yom Ha'Atzmaut makes me feel a bit weird- I mostly want to celebrate it as a "we have someplace to go if we can't stay here" sort of sympathetic independance day thing- and can't quite relate it religiously. I think that G-d related to us everywhere. Maybe it's that Reform upbringing showing through again... Somehow I can't associate bombs and planes with G-d. I'm not sure why guerilla warfare or palace intrigue and mass revolt are associable and this isn't as much- force of tradition maybe.

[gimmelgirl.livejournal.com]

Do you view Chanukah as a religious chag?
I see them as very similar situations. God helped protect us and ensure our freedom.
But remember, I am as much a Zionist as you are Reform.

[debka-notion.livejournal.com]

I see Channukah as a semi-religious holiday, religious mostly because of the miracle of the oil, wherever that came from. The victory I see as a human victory, not necessarily divine.

If you're as much a Zionist as I am Reform, you can't be that much of a Zionist... My movement identification varies between Conservative/Traditional Egalitarian/Reformodox and confused, depending on my thoughts of the moment.

[gimmelgirl.livejournal.com]

I meant that I am as much a product of my upbringing as you claimed to be. (o:

I see it as a partnership in victory - human and divine. Sorta like creation and tikun olam. We like to work together with God.

[jehuda.livejournal.com]

Whats this I hear about not doing any work? You know, big brother is watching you.

[fleurdelis28.livejournal.com]

*snerk*