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debka_notion) wrote2006-12-11 10:37 pm
debka_notion) wrote2006-12-11 10:37 pm
Upcoming Final
I'm rather nervous about my Talmud final now- I'm surprised I wasn't before. But I'm also feeling like obsessing over it now won't actually do me much good at this point. So- we'll see how it goes, but it's tomorrow at 9am, so after that I can nap, prep for my Hebrew reading test in the early afternoon, and then I'm into prepping for the take home exam, that exam itself, the paper and my application.
Outside of that, today was the last day of classes, and my Hebrew listening final was pretty reasonable, I think. A little weird, but reasonable.
And I went to part of (unfortunately I had to leave early) Rabbis Roth and Rabinowitz's talk on why they resigned from the CJLS- I really did respect what they were saying, and I was really relieved that neither plan on leaving JTS, or the Conservative movement. I was interested that their reasons were really quite different: Rabbi Roth disagreed with the halakhic reasoning of the Dorff/Nevins/Reisner paper, and Rabbi Rabinowitz took issue both with the halakhic reasoning and with the general make-up and format of the CJLS as an institution. What I thought was fascinating, in a sort of strange way, was that Rabbi Rabinowitz said that he'd go from a position that facilitated his resigning from the CJLS in protest to one that would be on the far left, "uprooting a principle from the torah", if it could be proved to him that doing so would benefit Jewish society as a whole and not just folks who are gay. I think that that's a really interesting position, although I somehow can't quite parse it into something that makes complete sense in my brain. It's kind of funky: at the same time I can see where he's coming from, from a traditionalist perspective, and I can also totally object, because how could he say that something that would improve so many lives Not be good for Jewish society at large? (At the same time, I suppose one could have made that same argument for the driving teshuvah, and that didn't help us any. But I don't think it's Really the same argument in this case. In the case of worries about this leading to the Conservative movement generally becoming a non-halakhic movement- now That worry I understand.) Rabbi Roth's issues were much more conventionally understandable from a halakhic perspective, although I'd Love to spend some time looking at what he was talking about in detail at some point. It showed me exactly how much I have to learn about the process and general hierarchy of halakhic authority and chain of transmission, which was both inspiring and intimidating.
Outside of that, today was the last day of classes, and my Hebrew listening final was pretty reasonable, I think. A little weird, but reasonable.
And I went to part of (unfortunately I had to leave early) Rabbis Roth and Rabinowitz's talk on why they resigned from the CJLS- I really did respect what they were saying, and I was really relieved that neither plan on leaving JTS, or the Conservative movement. I was interested that their reasons were really quite different: Rabbi Roth disagreed with the halakhic reasoning of the Dorff/Nevins/Reisner paper, and Rabbi Rabinowitz took issue both with the halakhic reasoning and with the general make-up and format of the CJLS as an institution. What I thought was fascinating, in a sort of strange way, was that Rabbi Rabinowitz said that he'd go from a position that facilitated his resigning from the CJLS in protest to one that would be on the far left, "uprooting a principle from the torah", if it could be proved to him that doing so would benefit Jewish society as a whole and not just folks who are gay. I think that that's a really interesting position, although I somehow can't quite parse it into something that makes complete sense in my brain. It's kind of funky: at the same time I can see where he's coming from, from a traditionalist perspective, and I can also totally object, because how could he say that something that would improve so many lives Not be good for Jewish society at large? (At the same time, I suppose one could have made that same argument for the driving teshuvah, and that didn't help us any. But I don't think it's Really the same argument in this case. In the case of worries about this leading to the Conservative movement generally becoming a non-halakhic movement- now That worry I understand.) Rabbi Roth's issues were much more conventionally understandable from a halakhic perspective, although I'd Love to spend some time looking at what he was talking about in detail at some point. It showed me exactly how much I have to learn about the process and general hierarchy of halakhic authority and chain of transmission, which was both inspiring and intimidating.
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I have been very annoyed on multiple levels at the fact that everyone has been treating this issue as though it only affected the rabbinical school. If JTS decides to ordain gay clergy, it will have a huge demographic effect on the cantorial school, and the departure of four CJLS members (including two of the movement's most prominent poskim) matters to everyone, not just rabbis and future rabbis.
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What has been going on in the cantorial school with this?
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Individual students chattering in the hallways about what this may or may not mean for us, and trying to clarify what each of the positions says.
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