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debka_notion ([personal profile] debka_notion) wrote2007-11-09 12:46 am

Tomorrow

Tomorrow off I go to Syracuse for my first ever rabbinical student in residence sort of thing. Wish me luck- I am starting to get a bit nervous...

[identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com 2007-11-11 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
No no no, it's just a precaution to make sure you have a fish with which to hit someone, should the need arise. The ideal practice is certainly to use a live fish, and the Talisker Rebbe (zikhrono levilbul) was makpid to carry a small fish tank at all times to make sure this was possible under any circumstance. That said, most poskim allow processed fish lekhathila as long as it's visually identifiable as fish by a katan of average seafaring ability.

[identity profile] debka-notion.livejournal.com 2007-11-11 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Is a paper fish ok b'dieved? What if it's really well drawn and lifelike? What about a model that the person being hit doesn't realize isn't a real fish?

Can I put my fish tank on wheels? How about the katan? Does the katan need to have a boat accessible?

[identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com 2007-11-11 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Is a paper fish ok b'dieved? What if it's really well drawn and lifelike? What about a model that the person being hit doesn't realize isn't a real fish?

The CJLS has ruled that if all possible avenues for acquiring real fish have been exhausted, one may use a paper fish. However, one should not say the berakha ("... vetzivvanu `al diyyug hasho'el").

Can I put my fish tank on wheels?

Arye Leyb of Bowmore used a tank on wheels.

How about the katan? Does the katan need to have a boat accessible?

Halakhically, no. However, the mekubbalim relate the oniya to hesed, and hesed corresponds to... well, nobody knows. Right around here they pass out from too much Scotch and imitation herring.