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( Dec. 4th, 2003 01:15 am)
I spent way too much time today grocery shopping for Friday's dinner with Selig and KoP-Dave. It was both fun and awkward- they have darn different personality styles, and I kept feeling like one was trying to dominate all conversation and the other was holding off a sulk. But we have everything but disposible pans, which we must get because we don't want to deal with toveling things of permanence. So I need to get to Victory tomorrow, and study, and choreograph, and write. And maybe start cooking. It's that or Friday morning and early afternoon. It'll be a busy Friday either way: kind of like this summer. Maybe I'll cut up the veggies before I go over, and keep them in plastic baggies with twist ties until then. It would save Sharona and Rita time with intruders in their kitchen.

Completely off topic: I'm listening to a song called BeLev Kaved, and it's one of the cheeriest songs I've heard in a while. And it's just beyond my vocab range and speed capabilities. Grr.

Tomorrow's going to be a constructive studying day, I sincerely, sincerely hope. But for now, I shan't worry about it- it's getting to be bedtime.

And clearly my thoughts are scattered all over the place.

So last night I had another in my series of conversations about that young persons' favorite topic- relationships and the lack thereof. Steve was talking about the value or lack thereof in relationships that lacked a solid emotional basis, and ones that don't end up going anywhere, which are at least to me, two seperate categories. Both relationships that I've been have been emotionally meaningful, certainly. It was odd for me: partially because she's had considerably more experience than I've had in this field, and second because I felt like I had a more stable model worked out, at least in theory. But I've been the favored source for romantic advice and listening for assorted friends for ages now, and for much of that I had absolutely No personal experience to draw on. Go know, as Dad would say. Nevertheless, it was interesting to give advice to someone whom I often ask for it. She always came across to me as having some sort of idea behind her dating strategy. But, like all of us, there are holes. I shouldn't be surprised. But it's plenty easy to miss such things when you want to. It reminds me of how insulated my community is: the moral choices we make are pretty far from those of other college students I know sometimes. Not always. But we definitely talked also about how the pressure to look like a good Jewish girl was stronger than perhaps the urge to be one. Just how many people project one image and do something else... And of course, the question is how much is that incompatible. It seems to be, but really, it feels like it should be. It's mostly just keeping some things private. But I feel like that is then putting pressure on people who are less independant. But I guess urging people to not follow the crowd is, by definition, difficult. Rather like our discussion in Hasidism of the Kotsker Rebbe. Wait- how did I get from relationships and the appended issues to the Kostsker
debka_notion: (Default)
( Dec. 4th, 2003 01:15 am)
I spent way too much time today grocery shopping for Friday's dinner with Selig and KoP-Dave. It was both fun and awkward- they have darn different personality styles, and I kept feeling like one was trying to dominate all conversation and the other was holding off a sulk. But we have everything but disposible pans, which we must get because we don't want to deal with toveling things of permanence. So I need to get to Victory tomorrow, and study, and choreograph, and write. And maybe start cooking. It's that or Friday morning and early afternoon. It'll be a busy Friday either way: kind of like this summer. Maybe I'll cut up the veggies before I go over, and keep them in plastic baggies with twist ties until then. It would save Sharona and Rita time with intruders in their kitchen.

Completely off topic: I'm listening to a song called BeLev Kaved, and it's one of the cheeriest songs I've heard in a while. And it's just beyond my vocab range and speed capabilities. Grr.

Tomorrow's going to be a constructive studying day, I sincerely, sincerely hope. But for now, I shan't worry about it- it's getting to be bedtime.

And clearly my thoughts are scattered all over the place.

So last night I had another in my series of conversations about that young persons' favorite topic- relationships and the lack thereof. Steve was talking about the value or lack thereof in relationships that lacked a solid emotional basis, and ones that don't end up going anywhere, which are at least to me, two seperate categories. Both relationships that I've been have been emotionally meaningful, certainly. It was odd for me: partially because she's had considerably more experience than I've had in this field, and second because I felt like I had a more stable model worked out, at least in theory. But I've been the favored source for romantic advice and listening for assorted friends for ages now, and for much of that I had absolutely No personal experience to draw on. Go know, as Dad would say. Nevertheless, it was interesting to give advice to someone whom I often ask for it. She always came across to me as having some sort of idea behind her dating strategy. But, like all of us, there are holes. I shouldn't be surprised. But it's plenty easy to miss such things when you want to. It reminds me of how insulated my community is: the moral choices we make are pretty far from those of other college students I know sometimes. Not always. But we definitely talked also about how the pressure to look like a good Jewish girl was stronger than perhaps the urge to be one. Just how many people project one image and do something else... And of course, the question is how much is that incompatible. It seems to be, but really, it feels like it should be. It's mostly just keeping some things private. But I feel like that is then putting pressure on people who are less independant. But I guess urging people to not follow the crowd is, by definition, difficult. Rather like our discussion in Hasidism of the Kotsker Rebbe. Wait- how did I get from relationships and the appended issues to the Kostsker
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