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([personal profile] debka_notion Feb. 25th, 2004 01:42 am)
Why do so many good Sci-fi stories decide to take a detour and discuss humans having sex with Martians?

From: [identity profile] thevortex.livejournal.com


Because, it's sex. Didn't you know that was a critical facet of all that there is? :Þ

The Vortex

From: [identity profile] debka-notion.livejournal.com

True, true


And I suppose it's still better than them segueing into a discussion of bestiality. But sometimes it's just so irrelevant. If you want your characters to be sleeping together, can't it be part of the plot? Or at least make sense? (One thing Heinlein manages more than many other writers, considering the quantity of gratuitous sex that he inserts at times.)

From: [identity profile] shirei-shibolim.livejournal.com


I wasn't aware that they did that. I'd ask you to name names, but I'll understand if you feel you've exhausted the subject by using the word "vulva" twice in a single blog entry. (I have to wonder if that's a record.)

From: [identity profile] tirerim.livejournal.com


Well, Larry Niven spends a good bit of time talking about rishathra, his word for the subject; he's even written a couple of good essays on the subject. But it certainly doesn't come up in even the majority of his stories. Heinlein talks about sex all the time, but it's usually just between humans. Moving to TV, Star Trek involves a lot of inter-species affairs, but since the species in question are all humans with lumpy foreheads and/or ears, it doesn't really count, and the species differences usually aren't brought up as important, anyway -- it's just sex (it only seems to matter when there are kids, who end up being half or quarter whatever; or when it's Data, who makes a point of mentioning that he's fully functional). Same thing with Hitchhiker's, pretty much. And then there's hentai, but since that's basically porn, it's a special case. So I suppose that I can't really think of that many examples, myself. There are others, certainly, but I feel like it's not terribly common, and it's less common that they actually discuss the implications or mechanics, rather than it just being a sex scene.

From: [identity profile] debka-notion.livejournal.com

Oh...


You should have had to deal with that class. In one day, we learned that: “Take my daughter, please! And I’ll give you a lot of elephants.”
-Professor Olga Davidson, on dowery, versus Dower.
“This radical new move is to sell your own vulva.” -Professor O. Davidson, on the innovations of Islamic marriage
“Why not just say, my vulva is your vulva, let’s share it?” -Professor Davidson, on WHy bother
“That’s why all those sex abuse cases happen: ‘Father, I masturbated.’ ‘Ooh, can you show me how?’” -Professor Davidson, getting sidetracked onto sex in Judaism and Christianity, after having been corrected that yes, Judaism does pay attention to the sex drive.

Just one of those days, I guess. And really- it was an abstract complaint, because the short story I was just reading decided to seque from discussing poetry, religion, dance, linguistics and translation to sex between a human and a martian, with no particular reason. Otherwise a good story, though. I don't mind so much, it's just that it was so utterly random...
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